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A MUST-READ THIS BEFORE YOU BUY ANY MATTRESS 30 Minutes makes you an expert! (sort of)

You may have never seen so much usable timely information in one place. And lots more in following essays.

Welcome to my Old Bed Guy Blog. I am the often-crabby little old bed guy and have been involved in the bed and bedding industry for over 60 years, and life in general, for more than 85 years. I have seen most, and if I hang around a bit longer, may get to see almost all.  I deliberately and thoroughly shop the web, read trade papers, and on nice days, when I feel energized, I visit a route of many local stores ranging from foreign imports, high-pressure chain sleep shops, department and furniture stores, and local factories… READ MORE

2015 Mattress Ratings From Consumer Reports… 

Tests and results from a reliable source… READ MORE

Mattress Buying Short Cuts

Dear Mattress Seeker, For the past four years I have been personally  helping  any reader who asked,  to select their own perfect mattress.  The only requirement was that they provide me with answers about their life style, health, and special needs.   At the present time, age-related issues do not allow me the time to do so.  Possibly in the near future I can return to that time consuming and pleasurable task, but for now, you, except for all the information contained in this post, and the rest of the Old Bed Guy, you are on your own.  If you  go slowly and follow my suggestions, you will be a happy sleeper instead of a scam victim.   I collected the information in this post from thousands of  individual searches and sort of organized it so that a short reading  can get you started towards  a truly wise purchase… READ MORE

Trustworthy or Not? —Sleep Like The Dead, Consumer Reports , Mattress Underground

If nature abhors a vacuum, opportunists are always ready to make money by exploiting the fears to be found in the minds of almost all mattress shoppers.  And that is the message I am trying to impart in this post.   The mattress industry as a whole, has intentionally made it as hard as possible to comparison shop for a mattress.... READ MORE

Which Is Best: Platform Bed, Box Spring, or Foundation?

The simple answer is, “all of the above”, but there are rules. The accurate answer depends on the type of mattress that will go on top.  If you follow these simple rules you will get a lot more satisfaction from your new mattress and platform, foundation, or box-spring. A  box spring has a small number of…. READ MORE

Comments

  • Marshall Coyle Marshall Coyle says:

    Scott: I sent you a personal letter dealing with your interests. I am sharing this with other readers. No mattress maker can force you to purchase a matching foundation/box-spring to validate their warranty. Your responsibility is to provide a decent quality foundation with a strong flat top surface. I know of no foundations that can do the job well and last as long as or longer than the mattress. A good foundation has a top surface grid made of interlocking strong wire. This grid is supported by various shapes of wire formed to resist shock and to provide a tiny bit of resiliency. To my knowledge, one company, The Leggett and Platt Company in Carthage, Mo. manufactures and supplies all major makers with ready-to-cover foundation. L&P is a huge and “invisible” B to B supplier. They are global with most of the production import warehousing
    in strategically sited US factories to minimize shipping costs. It would be a challenge to identify mattress makers who still may make the innards of their own foundations or box springs. Beckley, Charles P. Rogers, Gold Bond, Shifman Brothers, and McCroskey are not the last standing complete makers, but I can not name any of the others.

    Leggett and Platt along with a major trade association recently added to the confusion by dropping most of the use of the word foundation. If the object under the mattress gets its support from formed steel in any configuration, it is now a box-spring. L&P supplies ready made coil box springs to almost all of the 600 mattress assemblers and some of the mattress makers.

  • Marshall Coyle Marshall Coyle says:

    Peter, I think that the Sleep Science folding platform bed, as that is what it really is, has the potential to be a useful product. It is about twice as costly as the dozens of all steel similar platforms you can see if you visit Amazon or Walmart with a search term, “metal bed spring”. Some of them are now well under $100. All are imported from China. Not always a bad thing, just almost always. I like the ease of assembly on the Sleep Science. I would be more accepting of it if more detail was available on the net. There is a YouTube video of the assembly process. I sat through it several times hoping to see what kind of supports will hold up the very thin looking plywood. Cheap foundations, the kind that have no formed wire or grid top, only wood and cardboard inside, are all something to avoid. This new-ish import, if made well, could be used on any one sided mattress, not just memory foam. Slatted foundations are subject to the slats having no more than 2.5″ of airspace between them when supporting an innerspring mattress.

    I hope, for your sake, if you are getting a new mattress, that you are not experimenting with the super-cheap imports now being sold by Amazon and other large stores. Many have bogus labels claiming that they are American made. They are not. The glowing five star paid-for reviews are mainly made(written and placed) from India and Pakistan. The people who sell these mis-represented mattresses used to pay five dollars for five star reviews, but now, the same people who work the call centers in South Asia are coining cash writing reviews for as little as $1. You can go to http://www.fiverr.com and see how the process works. This has turned me off from believing any review that can not be verified. Most internet sites with customer reviews that are quite trustworthy are from sites that have real businesses. Real land addresses, real reputation. Macy’s or Penny’s and most other real stores only post reviews from people who have bought the product from them. The other ultra-phoney reviews are all over Yelp and Google.

    Marshall Coyle

  • Roger says:

    Hi Marshall,

    I wanted to see if it is true that a new mattress needs “breaking in” period.

    Do new mattresses really need time to break in? And if so, how long?
    If a new mattress is much harder than the one in the store, doesn’t that mean that it will continually soften over the life of the mattress?

    Thank you! – Roger

    • Marshall Coyle Marshall Coyle says:

      Good new mattresses should not need breaking in. And if they do change characteristics very rapidly, over a period of a few weeks, this is not a good sign. Unfortunately, many of the largest mattress makers, upon the request of the store, will build special floor samples for display purposes. These can sit in the store for many months getting abused with hundreds or thousands of backsides plumping down and loosening up the interior. So the sample feels softer than when the bed is delivered. If this is the case, your mattress will break in, and continue to soften until time to replace.

      If you spend enough time reading the posts in the Old Bed Guy, you will learn how to buy a mattress with good springs and superior latex filling/padding. These wear out so imperceptibly that they often last at least fifteen or twenty years before wear is severe.

  • George says:

    Good Day Sir,

    I am having a hard time finding a mattress that doesn’t feel as if it is trying to kill me when I wake every morning. I bought a CR membership, read through a ton of data, read about the testing & reviews & came away a little concerned about some of their “recommended” mattresses. Mostly because a found many complaints about sagging or lack of firmness on many of their higher rated items & alternatively, I found some low rated items, like mattresses from Saatva that seem to have nothing but positive reviews from CR’s very own members. I have tried many items from numerous retailers & am now considering some smaller local manufacturers like the Mattress Factory in Fort Worth Texas, not to be confused with the Original Mattress Factory, who seems t also have a lot of complaints from consumers to the BBB.

    At any rate, I am hoping you might be able to help me find something I can count on, constructed with solid engineering design & materials, that can enjoy for the next decade.

    So I am emailing you now, in the hope that I might finally get a decent nights sleep.

    Thanks for all your insight.

    Regards,

    George

    • Marshall Coyle Marshall Coyle says:

      Check the new Consumer Reports 2015 and my posts on Saatva and some of your answers will appear. I do not know of any Texas mattress maker that resembles the Original Mattress Factory in quality, but I have heard of one with a similar name that apparently does not. Lower prices come with the lower quality.

  • Barb says:

    Hello,
    I love your website! Just wondering if it is necessary to buy the box spring when replacing a mattress when the current box spring is like new and will end up at the landfill-seems rather wasteful? Also am thinking of,in the near future, purchasing a platform bed which i believe does not require a boxspring. I am looking at the MARSHALL Rest Assured IV Essence Tight Top or the MARSHALL Rest Assured IV Verve Pillow Top but can’t decide which to purchase. Can you tell me about SOY foam as they both contain this product.

    • Marshall Coyle Marshall Coyle says:

      Dear Barb.
      If your old box springs are real box springs, with real coils, and are not just a hard boxlike foundation, my answer is maybe. You are buying very expensive mattresses that are engineered to be used on a complementary flexible box spring. A good box spring does not normally outlast the mattress it is under. If you do own what once was a good box spring, one with resilient coils, you can tell by moving the mattress away and pushing down on it, sitting on it, pushing a knee into it. If when you push, it yields, you once had a good box spring, but it is more than likely worn out anyway. If you have no qualms about buying such a costly mattress, please buy the matching box spring.

      The soy is a completely other story. Usually bad, but far from always. If the foam comes from Carpenter or Hickory and has up to 30% soy, this is a good thing. I am running out of ways to tell my readers to be wary of most chemical foams. The word “soy” refers to a fabulous plant that can be made into food, plastics, truck tires, and even chemical based upholstery foams. I did not know that this venerable company is using these materials. My fault. I am NYC based and slipped on this. Should you want my freely offered virtual shopping experience. Send me answers to the seventeen questions I have posted all over the place. I will find you at least as good, that is not as easy as you think, probably better, and, if possible, padded only with clean and naturally cool latex. The easy part is getting you a much more reasonable price. I know that you appear to have asked me to decide between these two, but absent details about the person or persons who will be sleeping in it, I have no way to determine the appropriateness of either. I do know that if you buy from Marshall, you have to be prepared to spend, and not getting the matching box springs is a mistake, probably a costly one.

      I await an email at oldbedguy@gmail.com with all of the appropriate data to get me started virtual shopping for you.

  • C & T says:

    Spent much money five years ago on a Sears-O-Pedic and it sags and I’m sleeping on coils. The job of choosing a new mattress is overwhelming. My husband and I are in our fifties, work on our feet (12 hours shifts). We need firmish for him and pillowtopish (for side sleeper hurting hips – and everything else for me). We’ve narrowed down to Stearns & Foster Lily Rose Plush pillow top, Kingsdown Valentina- felt good for the price, Simmons Recharge, or I found one Shifman pillowtop flip in our price range. Help and thanks

  • Karen Frieze says:

    Md ear Mr Coyle,
    I just read your update Feb 5th which answered all my questions? I now have a new starting point thanks to you.

    I can’t thank you enough for all the valuable HONEST information you give with the your only interest if to HELP THE CONSUMER. Your information is invaluable.

    I can’t believe that I have been on the MARTRESS UNDERGROUND thinking he had the same motive of you.

    If anyone is looking at my comment , it is REAL. I have been turned, confused, misinformed for months and now I have the information and confidence to go out in the world and find my new MATRESS.

    Gratefully,

    KAREN F

  • scott says:

    Hello Old Bed Guy,

    First off thanks for all you do to help us get better beds at better prices.

    My question revolves around the Charles P Rogers Powercore estate line which I saw getting such a good rating. I see they make the 5000,7000, and 9000. I also already know that the higher the number comes with extra foam and gets softer. Every bed brand I have looked into seems to have a comfort scale of 1-10 which helps me determine softness. Do you have any idea where these 3 models would fit into a comfort scale of 1-10 ?

    Don’t want to get to firm or to soft but in speaking with Charles P Rogers they tell me the 9000 is the bestselling model of the line, so it can’t be that soft. My wife and I are both side sleepers and she prefers something firmer and I prefer something softer. Does softer equal more settling in the future ? Every bed we buy is great for 3-4 years and then not so much. We get body impressions on both sides of the bed first and then the comfort goes downhill real quick

    Thanks in advance

    • Marshall Coyle Marshall Coyle says:

      Dear Scott,
      There is no answer that I can supply about the firmness designations without lying as badly as the websites that use them. There is absolutely no science or language that can properly describe or compare firmness. One person’s soft is another person’s firm. It is all and only opinions. These 1-10 scales might sell mattresses, because they have the right look, but all they do is offer a crutch that is too long or too short for the person who needs it. A mattress expert, can read the specifications of a mattress and when they are complete and accurate will now exactly how it feels. He will also know how persons of different weights, ages, height, health, life style, and more, will be a fit for any knowable mattress.

      I answered an email today from someone who read my blog and picked up the phone and ordered from a nice store. In his email, which was not a complaint, but asking for help to make the situation better, he pointed out that he weighs three times as much as his wife. He likes their new bed, but she just floats on top not making a dent. I advised them to buy a super soft natural latex topper from Amazon and pay for overnight delivery. His wife deserves instant improvement. And even if the store they shopped at had had firmness designations, nothing would have changed.

      Your final sentence is very telling. “We get body impressions on both sides of the bed first and then the comfort goes downhill real quick”. It tells me that you have never had any latex, or a modern design one-sided mattress. Because you bought what I call “retro” mattresses that lasted 4-5 years, I am also close to positive that you underspent and/or bought in a small local shop. This may not make a whole lot of sense to you, but the mattress “mavens”that read this website will understand. Most small cities throughout the South and Appalachia as well as the Rust Belt have small local mattress factories that have never been financially able to upgrade their machinery, and thereby to make non-sagging mattresses that are so available elsewhere as spelled out in this site, also elsewhere.

      I do not want to name names here and make it even tougher for these hard working local makers. And, a handful of local factories like Gold Bond, Gardner, McCroskey and others, have been able to leave the twentieth century behind and now make good latex hybrids. People who own latex hybrids do not need to replace them every five years. I do not expect to live that long, but our 14 month old hybrid, will easily make it into its twenties if anyone is still using it.

      Many, actually most, softer synthetic foams are structurally weaker than firmer ones and you are quite correct. Nevertheless, the degree of softness in latex foam has no bearing on durability at all.

  • Buzz Coren says:

    Hello Marshall: We took your advice and visited Colton Mattress today, and bought both a king and full beds, different styles for different rooms, and await delivery in one week. Our experience dealing directly with the manufacturer gave us more confidence we were buying from a reputable source who backs up their merchandise. Hopefully we’ll be sleeping much better very soon and will get many good years out of these. Out of all the time I spent researching different possibilities the time spent reading your posts felt the most instructive and honest. Thanks for all this free counsel you’ve put out there to uneducated, bewildered and often gullible buyers, you’re a great guy.

    • Dear Buzz Coren,

      I always appreciate a meaningful thanks, but I do not want to take credit where it is not due. I did not recommend Colton mattress. I might have if I knew more about them, but their website has too little information about their products to for me to have any reason to recommend them. Not price, not quality, and not content. The site skirts around all of these issues. Praising oneself is not helpful, when I am dealing in real issues of comfort and support. There are numbers and descriptions found on websites that permit me to be confident when making a recommendation and these were not present when I visited the site on your behalf. I most certainly hope that you ordered wisely, and that they had the components needed. From their site, the photographs indicated superior skill in sewing a straight line, and that indicates a level of caring about the product, but there was not a single solitary comprehensive description or factual listing of the components or manufacturing techniques of any of them. This does not mean that they are one of the scam sites I rail about, the one’s with no land address and a history shorter than my last vacation, not at all. They appear to be a nice local company making or more accurately, assembling mattresses from parts purchased from jobbers or importers. They do not make any of their metal parts such as springs, and they are very limited to that which is easy and commonplace. Most of my recommendations go to innovators who actually make, not just assemble mattresses. The only assembler who gets a nod from me when due is the Original Mattress Factory when my correspondents are very financially challenged and price trumps all other needs, but still want something better than a Sams or an Amazon Chinese import.

      I apologize if I wrote so unclearly that you took an “I don’t know”, to mean otherwise. I also, had no data on your needs, as you chose not to reply to my questions, so with this purchase, you are on your own. I never substitute wishful thinking for real knowledge. It never has worked for me, but if it works for you, then, happy sleeping.
      Marshall

  • scott says:

    Marshall,
    Just wanted to update on what I ended up buying based a lot on what you have written on your site. I first determined what type/style mattress we would be most comfortable on and which would last the longest ( hopefully). I determined that a Latex hybrid would be the best for us. I then needed to determine who would make my hybrid. I settled on Charles P Rogers . Lucky for me the NJ factory is about 15 minutes from Me. I visited the factory/showroom 3 times before I was willing to give them my $2200.00 for a King Powercore estate 9000. The salesperson was very knowledgeable and not pushy at all. The factory is small and clean. Two things really stuck with me walking thru the factory. First was they were making springs on site. Second was the lack of chemical smell in the factory. There was no real odor despite the stacks of foam and mattress’s . No off gassing going on at all. I purchased the set and it was delivered today at the time agreed to. Can’t wait to get sleeping on it. It was a very good purchase experience and I think I got a really high quality mattress. Anything else with this quality would have cost $5000,00 or more and still wouldn’t be as good. I’m so glad I didn’t pull the trigger on a Savatta a few weeks back.
    Thank You !!!

  • Steve Chojnacki says:

    My wife and I are searching for a mattress for our 4 year old daughter. We purchased a loft bed, which per manufacturers specifications can accommodate up to an 8″ thick mattress, leaving approximately 5″ from the top of the mattress to the top of the rail. We would like to buy a quality mattress, but don’t recognize any of the brand names when searching for an 8″ thick (+/-) mattress. We’ve had our daughter lay on different mattresses, she indicated she likes a softer mattress (luxury firm / plush?). Unfortunately most mattresses which are 8″ thick are listed as being firm. If needed, we’d consider a mattress slightly thicker than 8″ (9″ to 9 1/2″) and incorporate other safety measures if meant we’d get a quality mattress that matches our daughters comfort preference. I am hoping you might be able to offer some suggestions or recommendations. Maybe we’re not looking in the right places? Thanks in advance.

    Steve

    • Marshall Coyle says:

      Dear Steve Chojnacki,

      What your daughter “wants” is not as important as what she needs. Until her skeleton stops growing in approximately 17 or 18 years, her soft and malleable bones should be on a mattress that feels closer to wall to wall carpeting with a nice latex rug cushion under it. When you see a beautiful young woman in her twenties or thirties with gentle to severe curvature of the spine, her parents may not be aware, but their choice of a mattress suitable for an adult, not a growing child, may have needlessly been responsible. I sense that you read as little as you could in my blog, or you would not be using the words “firm” and “brand name” in the same sentence. There is, as I must have said fifteen times, absolutely no relationship between the english language and any way to to measure the firmness of a mattress. The absence of anything like science in mattress testing and description is a bonanza for mattress sellers, and as long as people such as yourself have knowledge put in front of you on the proverbial silver platter, and ignore it, because you may think that you are too busy, you will respond to paid advertising and paid reviews.

      The same shopping farce will be repeated again in a few years when your first mattress prematurely dies, if it isn’t already sagging. Because the need is for a four year old, and not yourself, I am going to bend my rules to about never publishing such a brand-specific recommendation. Also, to your credit, you did not mention the word foam. So, maybe I was too harsh in judging the amount of energy you expended. I never ever ever would consider putting a child on a synthetic foam mattress. If you as a sentient adult want to subject yourself to the noxious and believed mutagenic outgassing from a memory foam mattress, that is between you, and eventually your lawyer. And, although I regularly identify and recommend suitable natural latex hybrid innerspring mattresses, and would do so here if one existed, but none do with a required 8″ max. A latex mattress of 8″ or under with an ILD or density of 40+ would cover your responsibility to provide a suitable surface for her to grow up on. (not in).
      However, any solid foam mattress of any kind is only half a mattress in the absence of suitable support coils. Coils being the operative word. Often sold are latex topped solid synthetic foam cores that being out the worst in both kinds of foams. I know that you asked for a “brand name”, and I apologize for the absence of Charles P. Rogers consumer advertising. If you are a N’yawker and visit their historic Chelsea showroom, you can see an extensive display of their print advertising. Most is in archives, but the walls in their hand-made brass bed room are decorated with ads from 1855 until the Civil War. You might see other periods as well. I have not been to this showroom in almost two years and some of historic exhibits are occasionally re-done. I do not know if Consumer Reports news stories or actual reviews count as establishing a brand name. Nevertheless, of the first four best rated innerspring mattresses this year, only half of them were from this little known company. The coils in this unrated Chelsea are clones of the CR recommended St.Regis.

      A larger concern for you is the guard rail. If it is too high from the top of the mattress to the bottom of the rail, she can get her head trapped underneath. If the top of the rail is too close to the height of the mattress, she can tumble over, or easily stumble if jumping around. These concerns are part of my negativity of your using a loft bed for such a wee one.

      She needs a hard innerspring mattress and I know of one and only one good enough for my great grandkids. All two of them, a complete matched set of twins, recently got their first grownup mattresses from “Grandpa Mattress” two years ago. They,the mattresses, not the beautiful children, are about 8″ tall, with a high count pocketed coil innerspring, with layers of CertiPur certified safe foams and natural fibers. It is not designed for comfort as an adult might feel it. It is purpose built to go on top of a daybed solid deck, the same, or almost the same as your new loft bed. It is designed to function as a trampoline or a dungeon floor, or whatever young minds care to make of the nice flat and slightly springy surface. It is called the “Chelsea” after the NYC neighborhood that has been home to the maker since 1855. (18, not 19). It is 8″ thick and comes in standard twin or daybed 33″ size. A completely unique product. http://www.charlesprogers.com/chelsea-p-527.html?cPath=4_237 In my experience it has never been wise to provide an upper bed, bunk, or loft, for such a young child. Children often lack good judgment, and the ease of jumping off such a bed has led to numerous urgent care visits. Your darling may, in your opinion, have a mature outlook about danger, and never gets a scrape or a bruise, but forewarned is forearmed. You may want the look but lack the square feet needed to achieve some decorating ideal, but there are plenty of nice trundle and other equally imaginative solutions.

      I wish I could wave my magic wand and change your floor plan, but magical thinking is the reserve of the “brand names”, not this tired and cranky old guy.

  • Lou V says:

    Marshall,
    I just wanted to update you to tell you that thanks to your website and Consumer Reports review of mattresses we took the plunge and purchased the Charles P Rogers King Powercore Estate 9000 mattress and boxspring. It was quite difficult to get over activation energy to buy an item of this cost without trying out the mattress but your input along with the CR review helped me to take the plunge. After receiving the mattress yesterday I am very pleased with the quality and difference between this mattress and the 3 year old mattress that it replaced. The previous mattress was not an inexpensive mattress but was already causing lower back aches every morning due to sagging.

    • Marshall Coyle Marshall Coyle says:

      Dear Lou V,

      It has been a very long and featureless day. I was about to close up for the night, when I decided to check the incoming and noticed your letter of appreciation. I do what I do expecting no compensation other than the pleasure of being able to give back while I still can. Not expecting is not the same as not wanting. When I was in business my report card always had dollar signs. Now that I am in a money neutral situation, getting a thank you for my labors is the kind of report card and compensation that I value most. When I realize that the thousands of words I have agonized over and edited and re-edited have, at least in your case, did make difference. It is possible that age-related issues will force me to retire from this full-time retirement, but when I get such nice compliments, I am really re-energized. I had not previously seen the phrase, “activation energy”, and I can see how useful it can be when describing the state of mind of so many consumers. You know that you need a new mattress, but the labor involved in actually getting what you need as well as your money’s worth, takes more energy than you are capable or willing to invest.

      Thank you, Marshall

  • Lou V says:

    Dear Marshall,
    Giving back is an understatement! Your website efforts proved invaluable to me and I’m sure countless others who unfortunately don’t take the time for feedback. The activation energy statement is due to my background as a chemist and this particular item, namely mattresses, make a data-driven person like me cringe. Your logic and clearcut input around the science of the choice is refreshing. You certainly made a difference in my decision making through your efforts.
    Thank you,
    Lou

  • Paul Jones says:

    Thanks for your time and effort to provide the great mattress advice on this site, very helpful. Do you have any advice on a good quality 3 inch latex topper?

    • Marshall Coyle Marshall Coyle says:

      Dear Paul Jones,

      Not by brand name or supplier at this time. I suggest that you visit Amazon, search 3″ Latex Topper on “home and kitchen”. Be prepared for a whole lot of choices. Eliminate the Dunlop. (no explanation, would take to long, but you want one made by the Talalay process). Then read the four star reviews. So many of the five star ones are phony baloney. The one star are usually about shipping problems. If within your budget, always always prefer one with a cover. Latex has little tensile strength and tears easily. A covered one is a smarter investment, long term. Getting the right firmness for your individual needs matters. What you are putting on also matters. It is not going to do much for a worn out mattress. It will never make a too soft mattress firmer, but can soften the surface of a too-firm mattress. Absent knowing the weight of the sleepers and the age and condition of the mattress,and what you are trying to accomplish, I could not be more helpful even If I wanted to, and I do. You might want to return to main pages on this site and take the survey. In the comments, remind me that you are only looking for a topper, and then armed with useful information, I will help you further.

  • Jeff says:

    Hello Old Bed Guy,
    I really enjoy your blog. I have learned a lot.
    I was wondering if you have any experience or know anyone that has experienced true tried Thai Massage Mats or Japanese beds? I have tried sleeping on the floor, it does take awhile to get use to, but just need a little bit more padding and was thinking about buy natural latex topper (1-3″) and just put it on top of a platform bed or Japanese futon (4-6″)
    I’m just not sure I need to have a mattress that is 10″-15″ thick.
    Heck I have even read about people getting great nights sleep in a hammock.

    I am curious about a true Japanese Futon, sleeping mat or Thai Mat

    anyways I appreciate any help and guidance you can offer.
    Thanks again,

    Jeff

    Please do not post any commercial sites.

    • Marshall Coyle Marshall Coyle says:

      Dear Jeff,

      Whatever Floats your boat. Billions of people still sleep on the floor in one room huts every night. However, some of us “lucky” first worlders have choices. You could sleep on what our society believes to be comfortable and healthful, or sleep on what “they” have to sleep on. I can assure you, from frequent visits to family in Japan, that anyone who can afford a western mattress, sleeps on one. Rich Japanese with feelings about tradition often have a small tatami room with a rice straw floor and a cotton futon for guests. I have slept on such authentic beds numerous times. It can be better than a saggy crummy worn out western mattress, but does not hold a candle to a nice brand new innerspring/latex hybrid such as the one I choose to sleep on tonight.

      I am removing the links that you inserted as they smack of commercialism. I could sell ads on this site as do most advice sites, but prefer keeping everything non-commercial.

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